and ryan, this is a big government moment, isn't it? this is a moment when, for all that they've said throughout this campaign, mr. ryan, mr. romney, about how they want to eviscera eviscerate government, this is actually a moment when we need government. >> it's a time when pieces of government come together, state, local, and federal. it's a moment when you move beyond party. they're not republicans and democrats in new jersey, they're just americans in need. and those messages, of course, resonate with americans in general. they also happen to be part of what the president and what governor christie is talking about. you know, this is the kind of politics that independent voters, moderates, the gettable, undecided -- >> that tiny number. >> that's what they want to see. they want to see a system that works. and when you have frankly, someone who is brash and outspoken and conservative, working with a president who's supposed to be polarizing, christie and obama working together with a single focus, i think it actually encourages people about politics, about government, and about th